What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
I am buying a house, and I want to automate it all -- centralized media
server, home theater, security cameras, motorized drapes, sprinkler
system, multiple music zones, touchscreens in every social area, timed
events, and remote access to it all. I am somewhat geeky, so I can
take technological challenges. I curently have Windows Media Center on
one PC, and I feel it would be nice to use one single interface for the
media, the cameras, and everything else. So, I appeal to your
experience and your wisdom... Which technology should I use (Insteon,
Z-wave, UPB... )? Which control program (HomeSeer, mCentral, ... )?
How should I distribute the media (Media Center Extender, Xbox, or just
cable it all? And what would you do differently in your experience?
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
Im not sure you can do all this through pc control. I have an
extensive AMX system. I have all the stuff that you have and just some
other extras that come to mind
1. Wired mailbox sensor
2. Wired flood sensors
3. Wired motion sensors which activate certain cameras
4. Driveway detector
5. Ability to get weather updates to determin various macro events ie
sprinkler
6. Pool / Spa control
7. Vacation mode settings, activating video recording, lights etc
8. Bathtub activation
9. Astroclock timed functions
10. Doorbell functions
11. Garage door
12. Telephone/Intercom integration
13. Network
14. HDTV
So not sure how much you want to do now or leave for later, but from
the above list you can see the list goes on and on. I have all the
above and am constantly looking for new ideas. Its a work in progress
and I love it.
Would love anyone else to add to what they have. ALWAYS LOOKING FOR
NEW IDEAS
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
I would run tons of wire to every room first, then conduit.
For software, I love my CQC, definitely CQC. Check out the sig below for
what i'm doing with it. HVAC, irrigation, security, CD, XM, DVD, TV &
CCTV(via a web browser), doorbell, also controllable via Cingular PDA for
when i'm not home. I'll probably get RadioRA for lighting with the bonus
early next year.
I got a few Fujitsu 3400 10" touchscreen tablet PCs for cheap control
throughout the house.
I can get a single program to do the front-end interface and the back-end
control. No way can HomeSeer even come close to touching that.
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"Carlos" <csa2@interalia.net> wrote in message
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I am buying a house, and I want to automate it all -- centralized media server, home theater, security cameras, motorized drapes, sprinkler system, multiple music zones, touchscreens in every social area, timed events, and remote access to it all. I am somewhat geeky, so I can take technological challenges. I curently have Windows Media Center on one PC, and I feel it would be nice to use one single interface for the media, the cameras, and everything else. So, I appeal to your experience and your wisdom... Which technology should I use (Insteon, Z-wave, UPB... )? Which control program (HomeSeer, mCentral, ... )? How should I distribute the media (Media Center Extender, Xbox, or just cable it all? And what would you do differently in your experience?
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
On 8 Aug 2006 08:24:00 -0700, "Carlos" <csa2@interalia.net> posted:
Quote:
I am buying a house, and I want to automate it all -- centralized mediaserver, home theater, security cameras, motorized drapes, sprinklersystem, multiple music zones, touchscreens in every social area, timedevents, and remote access to it all. I am somewhat geeky, so I cantake technological challenges. I curently have Windows Media Center onone PC, and I feel it would be nice to use one single interface for themedia, the cameras, and everything else. So, I appeal to yourexperience and your wisdom... Which technology should I use (Insteon,Z-wave, UPB... )? Which control program (HomeSeer, mCentral, ... )?How should I distribute the media (Media Center Extender, Xbox, or justcable it all? And what would you do differently in your experience?
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
I have degrees in automation and robotics and can say that I would do
it all myself from scratch with a wirless laptop ot tablet and some
remote modules, but for the average user I would say your best bet is
multiplexing everthing you can or wireless control to everything,
thatway everything you forgot to do when you set it up is still an
option.
I am buying a house, and I want to automate it all -- centralized media server, home theater, security cameras, motorized drapes, sprinkler system, multiple music zones, touchscreens in every social area, timed events, and remote access to it all. I am somewhat geeky, so I can take technological challenges. I curently have Windows Media Center on one PC, and I feel it would be nice to use one single interface for the media, the cameras, and everything else. So, I appeal to your experience and your wisdom... Which technology should I use (Insteon, Z-wave, UPB... )? Which control program (HomeSeer, mCentral, ... )? How should I distribute the media (Media Center Extender, Xbox, or just cable it all? And what would you do differently in your experience?
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What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
Having Degrees and telling people that you have them the first time you
talk is not very good, do you have any experience?
Going wireless is not good due to reliability problems with
interference and distance
Using a laptop or any central system as main control is madness
distributed control is the only way to give resilience.
I am sure no one wants to wait for the laptop to reboot to turn on a
light.
Systems like Konnex and C-Bus have this distributed control
I have degrees in automation and robotics and can say that I would do it all myself from scratch with a wirless laptop ot tablet and some remote modules, but for the average user I would say your best bet is multiplexing everthing you can or wireless control to everything, thatway everything you forgot to do when you set it up is still an option. Empress2454 #124457 The best Games <a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/>Multiplayer Online Games</a> <a href=http://www.gamestotal.com/>Strategy Games</a><br><a href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/>Unification Wars</a> - <a href=http://uc.gamestotal.com/>Massive Multiplayer Online Games</a><br><a href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/>Galactic Conquest</a> - <a href=http://gc.gamestotal.com/>Strategy Games</a><br><a href=http://www.stephenyong.com/runescape.htm>Runescape</a><br><a href=http://www.stephenyong.com/kingsofchaos.htm>Kings of chaos</a><br> Carlos wrote:
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I am buying a house, and I want to automate it all -- centralized media server, home theater, security cameras, motorized drapes, sprinkler system, multiple music zones, touchscreens in every social area, timed events, and remote access to it all. I am somewhat geeky, so I can take technological challenges. I curently have Windows Media Center on one PC, and I feel it would be nice to use one single interface for the media, the cameras, and everything else. So, I appeal to your experience and your wisdom... Which technology should I use (Insteon, Z-wave, UPB... )? Which control program (HomeSeer, mCentral, ... )? How should I distribute the media (Media Center Extender, Xbox, or just cable it all? And what would you do differently in your experience?
What would you do differently if you were to automate a new home from scratch?
On 30 Sep 2006 01:35:35 -0700, "Grahame" <Grahame_Edwards@hotmail.co.uk>
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Having Degrees and telling people that you have them the first time youtalk is not very good, do you have any experience?Going wireless is not good due to reliability problems withinterference and distanceUsing a laptop or any central system as main control is madnessdistributed control is the only way to give resilience.I am sure no one wants to wait for the laptop to reboot to turn on alight. Systems like Konnex and C-Bus have this distributed control
Hmmm ... Dr David Nelson -- who designed computerized instrumentation for
experiments in nuclear physics in the 1960's, was a designer of PRIME
Computers, co-founded Apollo Computers (later sold to HP) and then started
Savoy Software and designed and wrote CyberHouse IBM PC-compatible home
automation software -- states that he has installations that have run
continuously 24x7 from 1998 to date. Does his experience seem adequate to
you? Where is the "madness" in his MS-OS, PC-based solution?
Dr. Nelson makes available an extremely lucid beginning of a book on
concurrency in computer applications and its application to event-based home
automation software design. Highly Recommended (slow download):
I have run CyberHouse from Fall 1999 with no failure that I know of ever from
the software or OS. I received a free, full-version integer (3.x to 4.0)
upgrade as recently as this February. It has been hands down the best
software value for a major piece of software in 25+ years of dishing out $.
Folks that listened to the hardware bigotry and hawking software vaporware in
this newsgroups beginning in 1999 missed out on a spectacularly good, long
ride ...
And this (Cyberhouse) software can be modified to add and subtract devices on
the fly, and change rules on the fly -- no reboot necessary. In contrast, it
*is* in fact the distributed systems that use (eg) ladder logic that *must*
be stopped to be reprogrammed and then restarted/rebooted. This applies to
Ocelot, security panels and most "distributed control" devices. One of the
most hilarious claims made here in comp.home.automation is that 'you program
the Ocelot _once_ '.
(Clipsal is a notable exception that allows devices to added or subtracted on
the fly. Was that your point?)
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