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Old 10-15-2005, 03:00 PM
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When my furnace was working badly (the flue was clogged with soot, and
only about a 2 inch diameter open), it got soot on the walls,
especially where there were air currents and especially where the
sheet rock was nailed to the wall in the big bedroom**

As suggested last year, I put cloves in the fire, but didn't smell any
cloves coming out of the furnace. That is supposed to mean that the
firebox is ok, a complete separation between the fire and the forced
air.

So how did the soot get on the walls, especially where the hot air
vents are in the walls or floor or ceiling?

Is the firebox breached even though I don't smell the cloves.



**It's amazing that even though I could never tell where the nails
were before, there is a one-inch circle of light soot on top of most
of them now.

Thanks, mm

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Old 10-15-2005, 03:30 PM
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"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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When my furnace was working badly (the flue was clogged with soot, and only about a 2 inch diameter open), it got soot on the walls, especially where there were air currents and especially where the sheet rock was nailed to the wall in the big bedroom** As suggested last year, I put cloves in the fire, but didn't smell any cloves coming out of the furnace. That is supposed to mean that the firebox is ok, a complete separation between the fire and the forced air. So how did the soot get on the walls, especially where the hot air vents are in the walls or floor or ceiling? Is the firebox breached even though I don't smell the cloves.


I mean no offense, but:

Sounds like you don't get regular maintenance on your furnace (if you had,
you wouldn't have a clogged flue).

Have someone come out and clean it and check it over real good.

Eff the cloves! If you are trusting that with your life, you had better
think again.....


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Old 10-15-2005, 05:08 PM
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:30:08 GMT, "Dr. Hardcrab"
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When my furnace was working badly (the flue was clogged with soot, and only about a 2 inch diameter open), it got soot on the walls, especially where there were air currents and especially where the sheet rock was nailed to the wall in the big bedroom** As suggested last year, I put cloves in the fire, but didn't smell any cloves coming out of the furnace. That is supposed to mean that the firebox is ok, a complete separation between the fire and the forced air. So how did the soot get on the walls, especially where the hot air vents are in the walls or floor or ceiling? Is the firebox breached even though I don't smell the cloves.
I mean no offense, but:Sounds like you don't get regular maintenance on your furnace (if you had,you wouldn't have a clogged flue).


Right. I didn't at the time.
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Have someone come out and clean it and check it over real good.


Well, someone from a heating oil company did clean it. That's when I
saw how clogged it was. And I've had it serviced again since then by
another company, and neither said anything bad about the firebox. The
second guy said it was ok.

But my question is, If the firebox IS ok, how is it possible that
there are streaks/areas of soot on the wall at the outlets for the
heated air?

How does the soot from the firebox get to the household air on the
other side of the firewall?

I can imagine that sooty air escapes the fire chamber, permeates the
house and deposits itself everywhere, but that isn't what happened.
It's only on the sheetrock nails in most of the rooms where the heat
was on, on the walls where the vents are, and by the mail slot (which
I have now attempted to put weatherstripping in.) which is not too far
from a heating vent.
Quote:
Eff the cloves! If you are trusting that with your life, you had better


I would trust my life to cloves. I also have a CO detector, which
went off once beffore the furnace was cleaned.

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Old 10-15-2005, 05:13 PM
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"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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When my furnace was working badly (the flue was clogged with soot, and only about a 2 inch diameter open), it got soot on the walls, especially where there were air currents and especially where the sheet rock was nailed to the wall in the big bedroom** As suggested last year, I put cloves in the fire, but didn't smell any cloves coming out of the furnace. That is supposed to mean that the firebox is ok, a complete separation between the fire and the forced air. So how did the soot get on the walls, especially where the hot air vents are in the walls or floor or ceiling? Is the firebox breached even though I don't smell the cloves. **It's amazing that even though I could never tell where the nails were before, there is a one-inch circle of light soot on top of most of them now. Thanks, mm


There is a dry sponge that will HELP remove the stains.
Start talking to the SO. Time to repaint after you service the furnace.

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Old 10-15-2005, 06:08 PM
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But my question is, If the firebox IS ok, how is it possible that there are streaks/areas of soot on the wall at the outlets for the heated air? How does the soot from the firebox get to the household air on the other side of the firewall? I can imagine that sooty air escapes the fire chamber, permeates the house and deposits itself everywhere, but that isn't what happened. It's only on the sheetrock nails in most of the rooms where the heat was on, on the walls where the vents are, and by the mail slot (which I have now attempted to put weatherstripping in.) which is not too far from a heating vent.


It may not be the fire chamber, but just the hot air. Forgot what it is
called but the wall behind a refrigerator that has the coils in the back can
have a deposit of "dirt" on the wall due to the hot air flow.


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Old 10-15-2005, 06:27 PM
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"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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But my question is, If the firebox IS ok, how is it possible that there are streaks/areas of soot on the wall at the outlets for the heated air? How does the soot from the firebox get to the household air on the other side of the firewall? I can imagine that sooty air escapes the fire chamber, permeates the house and deposits itself everywhere, but that isn't what happened. It's only on the sheetrock nails in most of the rooms where the heat was on, on the walls where the vents are, and by the mail slot (which I have now attempted to put weatherstripping in.) which is not too far from a heating vent.


The soot was probably escaping and getting sucked right in to the ducts and
deposited around the house. Some areas will have different deposits because
of the convection currents in a given room. Sheetrock nails are less
insulated than the rest of the wall. They are metal and the studs are wood
and the R factor is less than an insulated wall.


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Old 10-15-2005, 07:51 PM
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"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote
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I can imagine that sooty air escapes the fire chamber, permeates the house and deposits itself everywhere, but that isn't what happened. It's only on the sheetrock nails in most of the rooms where the heat was on, on the walls where the vents are, and by the mail slot (which I have now attempted to put weatherstripping in.) which is not too far from a heating vent.


If you are getting soot out of the vents, then you probably have a cracked
heat exchanger instead of a cracked firebox (or course, a cracked firebox
can cause a cracked heat exchanger, but I digress).

Good possibility: when the chimney was stopped up, you were getting a lot of
back pressure. Depending on the design of your furnace cabinet, sometimes
the blower compartment doesn't have a tight seal and it cab suck fumes/soot
into it a blow it throughout your ducts.

Hey! It may be O.K. Just have it checked over real good (every year!) and
keep those batteries fresh in the CO detector...


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Old 10-16-2005, 04:35 AM
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mm wrote:
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But my question is, If the firebox IS ok, how is it possible that there are streaks/areas of soot on the wall at the outlets for the heated air?



Any smokers or candle burning in the apartment? Both will leave the type
of soot deposits you describe.



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How does the soot from the firebox get to the household air on the other side of the firewall?



See above, the crap is in the household air.

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Old 10-16-2005, 04:48 AM
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Any smokers or candle burning in the apartment? Both will leave the type of soot deposits you describe.


Yes, candles can be nasty. I know people that have one or two burning all
the time. Makes no sense to me. Where do they thing all that burned was is
going to go? On the walls, ceiling, furniture, etc.

Years of smoking can be nasty too. I remember buying new lamp shades and
then sitting on the sofa having a cigarette. The smoke was going up the
inside of the new lamp shade and would soon discolor it. I quite smoking
and since have not permitted it in my house. That was almost 30 years ago.


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Any smokers or candle burning in the apartment? Both will leave the typeof soot deposits you describe.
Yes, candles can be nasty. I know people that have one or two burning all the time. Makes no sense to me. Where do they thing all that burned was is going to go? On the walls, ceiling, furniture, etc. Years of smoking can be nasty too. I remember buying new lamp shades and then sitting on the sofa having a cigarette. The smoke was going up the inside of the new lamp shade and would soon discolor it. I quite smoking and since have not permitted it in my house. That was almost 30 years ago.


The part I can't understand is that the candle burning is usually done
by smokers who claim it "freshens" the air?
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