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Old 09-04-2003, 05:02 PM
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Getting some conflicting messages between this group, comp.home.automation,
and avsforums.com, wonder if anyone here can help.

I've read historical posts on all; this group recommends:
[per room]
- 2 CAT5e/6
- 1 for network
- 1 for just-in-case/other.
- 2 rg6:
- 1 for inbound analog TV signal
- 1 for outbound analog signal

AVSForums, which deals with Home Theater PCs and distribution of S-Video as
well as digital audio says:
[per room]
- 5 coax
- 2 for S-Video
- 2 for digital audio
- 1 for return signal
- 2 Cat5e/6
- 1 for network
- 1 for IR signal distribution/other

I've got a 3 rooms to wire fully, another 3 rooms for partial, plus the
outdoor CCTVs. At this rate, I'll have a panel that'll need ~25 coax's, 10
network connections. That may sound small to some of you, but it seems a lot
bigger than I was originally envisioning, and I want to double-check before
buying any equipment or running wires.

Note - this isn't future-proofing; at the AVSforums level, I'd end up using
every wire from the get-go, and god help me if I need more.


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Old 09-04-2003, 09:24 PM
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there's basic normal stuff, then there's the
compulsive AV fanatic view. It depends on your needs
and your goals.

For TV watching, I'm happy with COAX in, COAX return

Sound I'm more compulsive and have it on often. So for that
I've got a balanced pair of mic cables to another floor
and a TOSlink to the computer (directly below TV room,
short run). I'm trying to figure out how to pull a VGA
from there - the 15pin is not gonna fit in a 3/4 hole
and I'm not about to cut and reconnect HD15.

3CAT 5's run up for a couple reasons (phone + 2 serial + network
plus a couple sensor things - 3 was as easy as two for a 10'
pull).

Now my view on the TV stuff is that in the watching area,
I want reasonable quality. But there's really not that
much of quality ON the TV. So when I send, I modulate to
a channel and blow it back. The bedroom just has the old
TV (not a monitor), so that's easiest.

So I really want to send component video (3 coax) plus
2 sound? There's not much to see that really calls for
that. I've got that in the media room.

TV seems to be heading towards using firewire for HDTV
(mine predates that). I'd expect that firewire -> fibre
adapters would become available (it's really just an LED
and a phototransitor at its heart).

I'm looking forward to just pulling fiber and will eventually
do video right that way.


Bottom line, a TV in the kitchen can work fine with modulated
video, rather than S-Video. Perhaps not for you in the bedroom.
But look at the devices that will take 4 video/sound IN and put
them onto 4 channels and that paste that onto your cable.

Again, my personal take is for the people who decided to make Scooby
Doo (and everything else that was in TV Guide in the 60s) and anyone
involved in producing reality TV -- my personal dream is that a
percentage of the money that people spend on video should be used
to keep these people from ever working in TV and Film again.

Tivo means that I can watch when I want, but 60 channels of
unimaginitive crap owned by 4 corporations doesn't really warrant
hundreds and hundres of dollars a year for cable and thousands
for 5 tvs.

DVDs help some and netflix rules. But that's another thread.

VB wrote:
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Getting some conflicting messages between this group, comp.home.automation, and avsforums.com, wonder if anyone here can help. I've read historical posts on all; this group recommends: [per room] - 2 CAT5e/6 - 1 for network - 1 for just-in-case/other. - 2 rg6: - 1 for inbound analog TV signal - 1 for outbound analog signal AVSForums, which deals with Home Theater PCs and distribution of S-Video as well as digital audio says: [per room] - 5 coax - 2 for S-Video - 2 for digital audio - 1 for return signal - 2 Cat5e/6 - 1 for network - 1 for IR signal distribution/other I've got a 3 rooms to wire fully, another 3 rooms for partial, plus the outdoor CCTVs. At this rate, I'll have a panel that'll need ~25 coax's, 10 network connections. That may sound small to some of you, but it seems a lot bigger than I was originally envisioning, and I want to double-check before buying any equipment or running wires. Note - this isn't future-proofing; at the AVSforums level, I'd end up using every wire from the get-go, and god help me if I need more.


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Old 09-09-2003, 09:31 PM
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Getting some conflicting messages between this group,

comp.home.automation,
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and avsforums.com, wonder if anyone here can help. I've read historical posts on all; this group recommends: [per room] - 2 CAT5e/6 - 1 for network - 1 for just-in-case/other. - 2 rg6: - 1 for inbound analog TV signal - 1 for outbound analog signal AVSForums, which deals with Home Theater PCs and distribution of S-Video

as
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well as digital audio says: [per room] - 5 coax - 2 for S-Video - 2 for digital audio - 1 for return signal - 2 Cat5e/6 - 1 for network - 1 for IR signal distribution/other I've got a 3 rooms to wire fully, another 3 rooms for partial, plus the outdoor CCTVs. At this rate, I'll have a panel that'll need ~25 coax's, 10 network connections. That may sound small to some of you, but it seems a

lot
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bigger than I was originally envisioning, and I want to double-check

before
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buying any equipment or running wires. Note - this isn't future-proofing; at the AVSforums level, I'd end up

using
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every wire from the get-go, and god help me if I need more.


Consider making your system very flexible. When you install the cables, buy
a box of bridle rings at an electric supply house:
http://www.caddyman.com/erico_publi...rdlRngsMORE.asp
and a bucket of poly pull line. The pull line is dirt cheap. Install the
bridle rings so that once the drywall is up (and a pull line is installed
with each run) that you can just tie on a new cable and pull it through from
the central location to any outlet. A little bit of cable lube makes it a
breeze. You'll get the hang of it real quick.........place the bridle
rings, drill any holes (helps to file or rasp off the rough edges, sleeve
the holes or use bushings), place any conduit (use end bells to avoid
snags), and pull the poly line with the first cable run...........then tie
the next cable (and another poly line) to the first poly line and pull it
through. Not only does this save time and effort, but it "tests" the pull
so that you will have the confidence that you can pull in new cables once
the drywall is up. Save the first poly line for the next pull.....it will
look like a tangled mess, but if you just pick it up and move it to where
the next pull is you'll find that it untangles very easily.....as long as
you don't ball it up and pull at it. Strategically placed PVC conduit can
also go a long way to help things out.

Do that and you can change your system anytime you want........and don't
sweat not pulling enough cables or missing one.....just be generous with the
bored hole and conduit sizes.





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